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Thursday, May 16, 2024

THE REAL STORY BEHIND THE MINNESOTA ICEMAN....WHAT MAKEUP ARTISTS LEARN IN THEIR CHAIRS COULD TAKE DOWN HOLLYWOOD...

A frozen corpse of a modern day hominid in a block of ice making the side show circuit you say? Sign me up, that's just the sort of weird, pseudoscientifically cryptozoological ineptness that I love to dig in too and find the truth behind...



This one is just as interesting as the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot Hoax, which I previously debunked thoroughly. For more information on that see my myriad of posts regarding that subject...

But this one shares a commonality with my expose of the truth behind the Rock Ape legends of the Vietnam war....

So, let's begin...


in the late 1960s (right around the time of the Patterson-Gimlin hoax film) there was a sideshow carny by the name of Frank Hansen who had a trailer with a purported modern day hominid in a block of ice. This sideshow gaff was viewed by a gentleman by the name of Terry Cullen, who was an aspiring naturalist and had observed the carcass at the International Livestock Exposition’s annual fair in Chicago.



Hansen claimed that he was only the temporary ward of the body and that it belonged to an undisclosed owner (widely rumored to be actor Jimmy Stewart).

I believe the Jimmy Stewart connection comes in due to the fact that Jimmy Stewart had been embroiled in a bit of a conspiracy involving his smuggling of the Pangboche Hand, which is supposedly the mummified hand of a Yeti from the Himalayas. 

Mr. Stewart had hid the hand with his wife's clothing inside some luggage and smuggled it out of the country you see. 

So I believe that this is where the legend of Jimmy Stewart's involvement with the Minnesota Iceman originated. 



The Yeti hand which he had smuggled was a monkey hand and was a hoax itself. But that is another story....



So anyway, Hansen took this travelling exhibit around the country and charged people to come in a view it, just like any other sideshow exhibit. His story of where the creature came from changed many times......


Initially, Hansen claimed that the body had been discovered floating in a block of ice off the Siberian coast by a Russian seal-hunting vessel. Later, he said that a Japanese whaling ship found the body. Later still, he said that it had been found in a deepfreeze facility in Hong Kong (Heuvelmans 1969, Sanderson 1969, Napier 1973, Shackley 1983, Coleman & Clark 1999).


And later still it was said that the animal had been shot on a hunting trip in the Whiteface Reservoir region of Minnesota. For all these suggestions, the most popular idea about the body’s origin is that it was collected in Vietnam and flown to the United States in a body bag. Heuvelmans connected it with the story of a ‘huge ape’ killed in Danang, Vietnam, in 1966, supposedly close to where Hansen had been stationed during the war.


Which is absolutely not true as the so-called "Rock Apes" of the Vietnam war have been thoroughly debunked by myself along with photos of the actual "Rock Apes", real stories about them direct from soldiers involved and the creatures themselves which I have identified as the Red-Shanked Douc Langur (Pygathrix nemaeus), a known primate species native to the region and which still lives in that very region to this day. 


So we will just go ahead and debunk that theory right now. It was absolutely not a "Rock Ape" as it is not the species described and photographed. 


For in-depth analysis of that subject see my post at:




Frank Hansen, a former Air Force captain and pilot, recounted his extraordinary encounter with a mysterious creature in the pages of Saga Magazine in 1970. According to Hansen, the story began in 1960 when he was stationed at the 343rd Fighter Group in Duluth, Minnesota. During the 1960 deer hunting season, Hansen was part of a hunting party that included Lieutenant Roy Asfedt, Lieutenant Dave Allison, and Major Lou Szrot. The group left their cabin at approximately 6:00 am on the second morning of the trip, and Hansen began to make his way to a narrow neck of swamp. After sitting motionless for almost two hours, Hansen spotted a large doe staring at him. Suddenly, a shot was fired on the opposite side of the swamp, and the deer ran towards Hansen. He opened fire and hit the animal, but before he could take another shot, the deer vanished into the heavy brush.


Hansen followed the trail of blood and signs of direction, eventually finding himself lost in the swamp. As he walked, he noticed a strange gurgling sound ahead and, upon approaching, found three large creatures tearing at the insides of the deer. Two of the creatures were on their knees, while the third was crouched about 10 feet away, making a weird screeching sound. Hansen fired his rifle at the creature, hitting its eye and sending it spinning to the ground. The two remaining creatures ran away, and Hansen fled in the opposite direction.


After recovering from his ordeal, Hansen returned to the swamp with a swamp-buggy and re-traced his route. He eventually found the body of the creature, which was frozen and covered in blood. Hansen realized that the creature was not human but a "freak of nature." He decided to leave the body in the swamp, fearing that hunters might stumble upon it and summon the authorities.


Hansen returned to Duluth and told his wife about the encounter, showing her the gigantic corpse. The couple decided to remove the meat from the freezer and replace it with the body. They eventually moved the corpse to their basement, where it remained for over a month. As the spring thaw approached, Hansen and his wife decided to encase the body in ice in their freezer.


Hansen continued to wrestle with the idea of trying to thaw out the body and transport it somewhere for burial. His plans were delayed until his retirement approached, at which point he moved to a farm near Rollingstone, Minnesota. Hansen realized that he could not risk hiring a moving company to transport the freezer, so he rented a truck and moved the freezer himself. During the seven-hour ordeal, the top layer of ice began to melt, and Hansen became paranoid about the body thawing. He purchased a generator for the new home to ensure that the power would never go out.


In November 1965, Hansen retired from the Air Force and joined his family on the farm. With time on his hands, he began to read and ran across some books and articles on the "abominable snowman." The more he read, the more certain he was that the creature in his freezer was one of these elusive beasts. He made a few discreet inquiries about the statute of limitations on murder in Minnesota and learned that there was no time limit. Even though he was sure the creature was not human, he decided to keep the corpse hidden in the freezer for a while longer.


A little over a year later, Hansen met a veteran showman who recognized his boredom with civilian life and suggested that Hansen exhibit a rare old John Deere tractor that he had acquired and had loaned to the Smithsonian Institution. The showman suggested that Hansen take the tractor on the state fair circuit. Hansen was pleased with the idea but had other "things" in mind. He asked his friend if the body of a hairy creature that resembled a prehistoric man would make a good attraction? The showman assured him that it would but when he asked Hansen where he would get something like that, Hansen told him that he could have a model made.


Hansen decided to consult with his attorney concerning the legalities of displaying the creature he had killed in the woods. The attorney didn't believe a word of the story until Hansen drove him out to the farm and showed him what was in the freezer. The attorney was stunned but advised Hansen that he could possibly get into legal trouble by displaying the body. There could be a murder charge if the creature was determined to be human, he said, and there were also laws about transporting dead bodies.


Hansen continued to press him about displaying the body as an exhibit though. The attorney considered his ideas for a moment. "You have the original body," he finally said. "The authorities will be after it because this thing is the scientific find of the century. However, it might be possible to create a model as you suggested. Maintain a record of the model's construction but show the real creature instead. If the officials pressure you, it's a small matter to produce photos of the model taken during different phases of fabrication." Hansen agreed and then came up with an even better idea. He would exhibit the model only for the first year so that the "carnies" would accept it as a bogus sideshow exhibit.


In January 1967, Hansen made sketches of the creature and then went to Hollywood to confer with some makeup artists who created special effects for the movies. He spoke with Bud Westmore, the head of makeup effects for Universal, and told him that a believable model could cost as much as $20,000 to produce. He told Hansen that he didn't have time to make the model for him but if needed, he would provide technical support. Hansen then consulted with the Los Angeles County Museum and it was suggested that he contact Howard Ball, an independent artist who had created life-sized animal exhibits for the La Brea Tar Pits. Hansen hired Ball to create the model and was also told by John Chambers from Fox that a small wax studio in Los Angeles could implant the hair according to Hansen's specifications. With Chambers' introduction, Hansen hired Pete and Betty Corral, who implanted the model's hair individually with needles.


Hansen now had a model that he had spent thousands of dollars on, but no guarantee that it would make any money as an exhibit. He decided to put the final touches on the creature himself (rather than spend more money) and he and a friend from Pasadena added bloody eyes, a broken arm, and blood-soaked hair to make it look as close to the original in Hansen's freezer as possible. Hansen then rented a freezer where he could encase the model in ice to get it ready for its debut on the west coast.


The exhibit debuted on May 3, 1967, as what the carnival folks called a "What is It?" show. Hansen explained that the creature had been found frozen in the Bering Straits by Japanese fishermen. He had created this cover story and stuck to it for the next two years. The tour continued until November 1967, when Hansen closed at the Louisiana State Fair and returned home to Minnesota. By March 1968, he had convinced himself that it was now safe to replace the model with the real specimen for the upcoming fair season. He had been told by carnival experts that the model was a sensational attraction but that it had too many flaws to fool anyone with an expert knowledge of anatomy. He was sure that word had gotten out that the exhibit was a fake and that he would be safe to put the real cadaver on display.


Hansen then got to work unthawing the real body so that he could cut the tendons in the arms and legs and make it look like the model. He froze it again and then prepared to hit the fair circuit. The attention that the exhibit got was different than when Hansen had been showing the model though. While most of the onlookers had been impressed with the old exhibit, the real corpse was drawing a different crowd. Now, doctors, college students, and scientists were coming to examine and photograph the "missing link." At the Oklahoma State Fair, one prominent surgeon visited the exhibit on nine separate occasions, each time bringing a different colleague with him. At the Kansas State Fair, the county pathologist was so intrigued that he sent many of his associates to see the display.


Hansen was displaying the creature as the "real thing," which he maintained that it was, although he continued his cover story that the monster was actually owned by a California millionaire and that it had been recovered in the icy waters of the ocean. While the creature was drawing attention, Hansen was still able to keep its existence quiet and to maintain, despite some nagging doubts, that it was merely a carnival exhibit.




After Terry Cullen viewed the Iceman he contacted notable cryptozoologists Bernard Heuvelmans and Ivan Sanderson. Now I do want to point out that Sanderson and Heuvelmans have been debunked thoroughly in many instances...one of which is an incident in which Heuvelmans postulated that footprints left on a Clearwater Beach were left by giant 15 foot penguins...so yeah...they kind of fit into the frame with Bill Munns whom I have debunked and just look at my post about the Munns Debunk or Meldrum whom I also debunked and you can look at my post about Skookum for more info on that... but these two gentlemen fit right in with the other cryptozoologists who ignore the scientific process and always end up with a proverbial pie in the face. 


Anyway, Sanderson and Heuvelmans examined the iceman in December 1968 at Hansen’s home where it was being stored off-show for the winter. Both became convinced of its reality, so much so that they prepared detailed illustrations and planned to have the creature described in the technical literature. The body was that of a robust, barrel-chested male with a thick neck and large hands and feet. Its face was broad, flattened and possessed a short, upturned nose and prominent brow-ridges. An eyeball dangled from one of the sockets, apparently resulting from a gunshot to the back of the head, and a bend in the forearm was interpreted as evidence for a fractured radius and ulna. Sanderson and Heuvelmans were intrigued by its enormous hands. Its thumb was slender, tapered and long, its nails were flat, yellow and of an appearance that almost looked manicured (Sanderson 1969), and a heel-like pad was present on the palm’s outer side, a feature suggested by Sanderson to be indicative of habitual quadrupedal behaviour (Sanderson 1969). At one point during the examination, the glass over its case cracked, releasing an odor described as that of decomposing flesh.


Sanderson, believing it to be real referred to it as "Bozo". It is fitting that the official name of the Minnesota Iceman is "Bozo". Which aptly describes the so-called scientists who were viewing the subject. 


Heuvelmans’ opinion – expressed without equivocation – that there was no replacement model, and that the object said to be such was actually the original carcass, reposed after thawing and re-freezing, and ‘hidden in plain sight’. This view flatly contradicts popular cryptozoological lore in which it is widely stated that the iceman viewed by people after the Heuvelmans-Sanderson pronouncements of 1969 was a replica and not the original.


There is an in-depth account of the 3 day study of the Minnesota Iceman in the Bernard Heuvelmans' book, Neanderthal, which offers a comprehensive account of the case, providing a unique perspective from the author himself. The book delves into Heuvelmans' favored hypotheses on various topics, which were previously discussed in his other works but not exhaustively explored. As an intellectual figure, Heuvelmans occupied a distinct intellectual landscape, characterized by his promotion of nearly 140 unknown animal species (Heuvelmans, 1986). His imaginative reconstructions of these creatures were situated within unconventional evolutionary scenarios, diverging from the prevailing views of his contemporaries. This book likely provides the most insight into Heuvelmans' opinions and interpretations of evolutionary patterns, surpassing other works (excluding those yet to be translated from the original French). Consequently, the book holds significant value for scholars interested in the history of cryptozoological thought, speculative evolutionary hypotheses, and the history of 20th-century thought on hominin evolution



In regards to the theories that Hansen had replaced the real specimen with a fake one...


Here is what Heuvelmans (2016) says: “There was only one point on which my views diverged from Sanderson’s, as well as from all others who had looked into the matter, and that was on the nature of the specimen exhibited by Hansen after April 20 (1969). I was the only one to believe that it was still the actual corpse [emphasis in the original]. True, I had a definite advantage over everyone else – I was the only one to have many excellent photos of the original exhibit … I had been sent a few color slides of Hansen’s new exhibit. After a comparison with my own, I had to agree with the evidence: it was the same and only specimen [emphasis in original].”


John Napier of the Smithsonian recognized it as a latex model on first sight. 


The creature was actually created by Howard Ball, who was a sculptor for Disney Studios was the actual sculptor of the hoax. He sculpted it in latex and had it frozen in a block of ice. Latex, when frozen and thawed puts off a pungent odor like that of rotten flesh. 


In comparison, cryptozoologists have perpetuated the myth that special makeup effects artists believed that the Patterson film was hard, if not impossible, to fake. This article should lay to rest any notion that makeup experts were generally impressed by the Patterson film. In reality the FX Makeup Community is very secretive and tight lipped.


 I spoke with Don Glut, the person who told Alex Downs the Chambers rumor. Alex, you may recall, was the first person who passed the information on to me. Glut recalls:


I used to be a member of the California Skeptics Society and they had a lecture on Bigfoot in which they ran [the Patterson] footage. And when they ran it, the guy who ran it--I don't remember who ran it--he claimed that Rick Baker had looked at the footage and totally authenticated it. He said, "Based on my knowledge of ape suits and things that this could not possibly have been faked." So I then asked Jim McPherson, who worked with Rick, and I said, "Did you ever hear about Rick Baker substantiating or authenticating this footage?" And he said, "We know in the special effects business here, that it's kind of common knowledge that that footage was faked by John Chambers."



I am in the awkward position of knowing more than I can tell at this time. One aspect of either Chambers' career or the legends surrounding it is the buzz about Chambers' involvement in government-sponsored "black box" work. No one has ever been willing to go on the record concerning this alleged work, but within the Hollywood makeup community it is generally believed that such work did occur and that it has added to the secretiveness of Chambers and his closest associates. The tight-lipped attitude of those in the know has only contributed to the spread of rumors and speculation in the Hollywood makeup community. Widespread rumors in the makeup community depict Chambers applying a wig and prosthetics to a cadaver to fake the death of a foreign ruler and engaging in a number of "Company"-sponsored "nontheatrical" projects. These black box rumors are all reminiscent of Mission Impossible plots, many of which relied on disguises-some courtesy of Chambers' makeup prowess. One rumor depicts the CIA watching Mission Impossible on television and getting disguise ideas from it, then going after the makeup artist-Chambers-to work for them. (Actually, Chambers did the makeup on the pilot while Bob Dawn was responsible for the eyecatching work on most of the series.) While there is no proof that Chambers was involved in covert activities, we do know for a fact that Hollywood makeup artists have been instrumental in various military/intelligence projects. In this regard I interviewed Bob Schiffer (The Shaggy Dog,The Birdman of Alcatraz), the head of Disney's makeup and hair department with over sixty years in the business. The veteran makeup master touched on this sensitive topic:


John did mention to me at one time that he was involved in something for the government. Some of us, including myself, were recruited during World War II by [then Lieutenant] Gordon Bau for undercover work of a certain type. Sometimes we did not know what the makeup was used for. A lot of us did camouflage work in World War II. I was also involved in the years after the war. In the Bay of Pigs invasion we made up people to look Cuban.


For the record, Schiffer opines that the Patterson film Bigfoot "looks like someone in a suit."


The makeup community is a secretive group, to be sure, with more than its share of secrets. There is an old adage in Tinseltown: "If the makeup artists told what they learned in their chairs, it would bring down Hollywood."



If Chambers made the Patterson suit, it would not have been the only Bigfoot-related hoax that he was involved in. He was also responsible for the fabrication of an elaborate, phony Bigfoot carcass, and he may have consulted on the creation of the infamous Minnesota Iceman. Thus, he was not averse to being involved in hoaxes and other secretive "nontheatrical" projects, as the makeup artists refer to non-movie projects.


The Burbank Bigfoot was a 900-pound, seven-foot-four-inch Bigfoot model created by Chambers and his crew in the makeup artist's Burbank garage. According to makeup artists Tom Burman and Werner Keppler, the body was an alginate life casting of the actor Richard Kiel, best known for his role as "Jaws" in two James Bond films. Chambers worked on the face to create an "apeman" look and ultimately the whole body was cast in plaster. The plaster body was meticulously painted by Chambers and then covered in three pounds of human hair, the hair alone requiring a week of work. "Body hairs were placed on the figure a few at a time, and blended with various colors to match the patterns found on gorillas, monkeys, and humans. After the hair was set in place, Chambers and his men cut and trimmed it carefully, to give the entire hair covering an even natural look," according to an article in Hollywood Studio Magazine ("'Bigfoot' Born in Burbank?," June, 1970). Werner Keppler clearly recalls the laborious fabrication process and the way that the huge plaster body was hoisted out of the studio-garage by rented crane.


Who commissioned the fake Bigfoot? No one is talking and the only clues are in the Hollywood Studio Magazine article:


The creature was ordered by a man who specializes in sideshow attractions and wanted something new to haul around the country this summer. ...the man came to Chambers with a number of magazine articles and clippings purporting to show the mysterious ape-man and asked for a duplicate in plaster. Big Foot will soon be on its way to the mid-west as a curiosity similar to the famed Cardiff Giant of the last century, except John Chambers makes no claims for the creature other than the fact it is one of the most impressive studies in plaster he has ever done.


The article suggests that if a scientist in the future discovers the ostensibly petrified Burbank Bigfoot, "you can bet John Chambers will be looking down from that big makeup lab in the sky with a grin on his face."


As to whether or not Chambers played a part in the Frank Hansen Iceman hoax, all that can be said is that in an article in the July 1970 issue of Saga magazine Hansen wrote that he had consulted with Chambers concerning the hair implantation on the Iceman, writing, "John Chambers, a makeup artist and academy award winner from 20th-Century Fox suggested that a small wax studio in Los Angeles could implant the hair according to my specifications." Now Hansen denies that Chambers played any role at all in the Iceman fabrication. Rather, Hansen, who changes his stories like other people change shirts, now insists that he met with Chambers concerning the fabrication of a cryogenic display. (Those who have followed the Minnesota Iceman saga over the years may find it interesting that makeup artist Mike McCracken, Sr. described to this investigator how he met Hansen when the showman came to Universal Studios to talk to the effects team there about building him a phony crashed saucer, including occupants.)


I shall leave this source unnamed but this is from an individual whom i have spoke too through my connections with first hand knowledge:


“John Chambers was interested in the direction I was going with the Studios, and became involved in a couple of our projects, specifically creating or advising “prehistoric men” for showmen Jerry Malone (John created this “dead” Neanderthal) and Frank Hansen (we referred Frank to La Brea Tar Pit/Natural History Museum sculptor Howard Ball who cast this figure in hot melt; John joined us in consultation of the project)."


John Napier of the Smithsonian had launched an official investigation into the origins of the Minnesota Iceman contrary to the claims by cryptozoologists that it was never looked in to or not taken seriously. 

Mr. Napier located the company which Howard Ball had worked and discovered that they had been contacted by Hansen in 1967. It was discovered that they had successfully made an "Iceman" for him prior to the attraction having made a single public appearance.

They stated that it would be wrong to call it a replica as they had never seen an original to copy in the first place.

So again, put a fork in it, it's done. The Minnesota Iceman was just a frozen latex TV Dinner (As the moniker for such frozen treats were referred too during that time).

Incidentally, if you would like to see Mr. Ball's sculpt it currently resides with Steve Busti at the MUSEUM OF THE WEIRD in Austin, TX.

I wanted to see it while I was there because I was aware of the history behind it and given the chance I simply wanted to see it for myself….

I was given special permission to take some photos of it. Here they are....













Special credit goes out to Darren Naish for his article in which he posted the articles from the late 60s and early 70s magazines that I was able to use for this in his post: 

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Tuesday, May 14, 2024

Babel Fish Conversational AI 2nd Promo Video

 

v                                 Different version of the Babel-Fish Conversational AI Promo



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Babel-Fish Conversational AI Promo Video 1

 

Promo I made for my new Conversational AI Software, just playing around with it. I think it's hilarious. 

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Monday, May 13, 2024

Perception Management 101: UFOs, Roswell, Extraterrestrials, and the Men in Black

 Perception Management 101: UFOs, Roswell, Extraterrestrials, and the Men in Black


In 1980, Bill Moore and Charles Berlitz published a landmark book that popularized the myth of the Roswell Incident, which is the reputed crash of an extraterrestrial vehicle and the recovery of its crew in 1947. The book features an inside U.S. Government informant, known as "Falcon," who was later revealed to be Richard Doty.


Before proceeding, it's essential to note that Doty's father was directly involved in the crash retrieval efforts of the Roswell Incident, which will play a larger part in our discussion.


During the 1980s, a highly intelligent and successful entrepreneur, Paul Bennewitz, began picking up radio transmissions from Kirtland Air Force Base. His house was adjacent to the base, and the transmissions were direct communications regarding a classified project involving drone and stealth technology. This was problematic for the Air Force, as national security required secrecy to prevent nations' enemies from knowing their full defensive or offensive capabilities.


Contrary to the short-sightedness of UFO researchers, this does not imply that the Government is hiding UFO or extraterrestrial technology. Instead, it is more likely that these projects were terrestrial in origin, but kept secret for national security reasons.


As an AFOSI Agent, Doty was part of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, which is the real origin of the so-called Men in Black. They are AFOSI Agents tasked with hiding classified projects. Behind the scenes, there was a lot going on during the Cold War era, with KGB agents infiltrating the UFO community, aware that what UFO researchers mistook for extraterrestrial visitors were actually drone and stealth classified projects.


During the late 1970's - 1980s, with Star Wars and science fiction prevalent, UFO sightings increased, corresponding with the release of Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Star Wars. Richard Doty developed a perception management campaign to muddy the waters in the UFO community. He became friends with Moore and pretended to be an inside informant, leaking secret information about UFOs. This led to the book The Roswell Incident, which birthed the modern UFO mythology.


Prior to this, there were UFO reports, but they were related to classified projects, such as Project Oxcart and the SR-71 Blackbird. However, this marked a significant change, as KGB agents mixed with the UFO community to uncover valuable information about drone and stealth technology.


In terms of classified projects, they have technology 50 years ahead of what the public knows. They keep it hidden until it becomes unnecessary or newer technology replaces it, and then it is declassified.

In fact the Air Force PROJECT BLUE BOOK research efforts were shut down because every time the researchers made an investigation they kept running into classified projects which had to be kept secret for national defense interests. So, they would have to come up with cover stories to explain them away. This is why there were reports of swamp gas, or ball lightning or St Elmo’s Fire causing these sightings. They literally had to just make up whatever they could to explain away these sightings because every single time they were coming up to a correspondence between the sightings and the classified projects. It really became so problematic for J Allen Hynek and everyone involved with PROJECT BLUE BOOK that is had to be shut down because every single sighting corroborated with the testing of these clandestine projects. 

The perception management campaign deliberately fabricated a false mythology about UFOs, visitors from other planets, and the government having alien technology. For any perception management to be effective, it must mix truth with lies. Typically, the more outrageous parts are the more truthful, and it is all mixed together to create confusion about what is true.


Doty was tasked with contacting Moore and finding out what he knew, who he knew, and so on. This is where the modern mythology of UFOs began. The idea was spurred by his father's involvement in the crash retrieval of Roswell, which was an obscure and largely forgotten incident where the Air Force mistakenly thought they had recovered a flying disc but was actually a high-altitude weather balloon program designed to go undetected into Soviet airspace.


The body retrieval part is actually from a separate incident in the 1950s in the same area where crash test dummies were used for testing crash deployment for the upcoming Mercury Astronaut Program. As the years went by, the two separate incidents merged into the fantastical narrative about Roswell, which is directly attributed to Richard Doty and his supply of false, inside information to Bill Moore for his 1980 book The Roswell Incident.


Now that the background is cleared up, let's move forward into the 1980s and Kirtland AFB, Paul Bennewitz, and Richard Doty. As previously stated, Bennewitz had tapped into the secret radio transmissions at Kirtland AFB regarding the aforementioned classified projects. He contacted the AFB, believing what he was listening to were UFO transmissions planning an attack on the base.


They broke into his house, replaced his computer with one programmed to decipher messages they would deliberately send to this computer by beaming them in from a radio antenna in a van parked down the street. They employed psychological warfare techniques against him, claiming he had found a crashed UFO and had a base at Dulce. This originated the Dulce underground facility and UFO conspiracy theories.


To make it short, they drugged him and fed him full of lies about UFOs, ultimately driving him insane and putting him in an asylum. This is all documented, all true, and this is where the modern UFO mythology about Grey Aliens, etc. comes from.


It is all a perception management campaign designed to hide clandestine technology in the interest of national security and the fact that people already believed they were seeing UFOs, which played into their hands in aiding them with the mother of all cover stories. The ultimate Perception Management Campaign.


After all, if someone thinks that there’s UFO’s then all you have to do is make that suggestion. Just shrug your shoulders a little bit and make a simple remark that well, maybe it was….. or it might be something…. and then just let their imagination run wild and before long you have Alien Autopsy’s and Lizard Aliens from another planet trying to get our water and hiding in subterranean lairs because they subconsciously saw something along those lines on a movie. Easy, built in cover story to help you do your job and protect the classified projects from detection and keep the Nation secure from would be invaders and their attempts at discovering your secrets.

Maybe those nations will even buy into your UFO narrative? Maybe they will think that possibly you have alien technology and they had better not mess with you, but realistically other nations will likely know that it’s clandestine technological experiments but they won’t be able to discover exactly what it is.

Then if you really want to make things interesting and keep this fantastic cover story going then throw some fuel on the proverbial fire. Release some documents that are faked with a little information in there about UFO contact. Really spice it up. Make it so that they don’t know what is what but they think that whatever it is it has to be extraterrestrial because why would the government hide anything else? It has to be the most outrageous and crazy thing possible right?

Even when the truth is that the universe is so enormous that most people can’t even grasp just how big it is. It is so absolutely huge and the distances involved are so gigantic that it would literally be like a needle in a haystack if it were even possible to locate another civilization.

Even if we were to suppose that another civilization had the capabilities of interstellar travel (which really isn’t that likely) then for that civilization to even discover we were here to begin with would be an almost impossible feat.

It is very, highly unlikely that there are other civilizations with those capabilities. I’m not saying that there are no extraterrestrials. On the contrary, I find that idea likely. But what I am saying is that their existence does not automatically mean that they have ever been here (which there is no actual evidence to ever suggest that we have been visited at any point in history by an extraterrestrial civilization despite what foolish and misinformed ancient alien theories might suggest).

If they do exist, they have never been here, don’t know of here and even if they did they likely don’t have the capability of travelling to here. Whose to say that they are more advanced? But in all likelihood given the distances involved and the enormity of the cosmos, it is very highly unlikely that we will ever, at any point actually discover, much less be visited by extraterrestrials. It’s really an implausible premise. And again, I’m not saying they don’t exist. They likely do. But they have not and they will not ever visit this planet which would literally be a needle in the proverbial haystack. And no amount of faint radio signals is going to change that fact given the complexity and the enormity of the cosmos. 


Now, there is another series of events surrounding cattle mutilations and UFOs, which originated from an underground fracking attempt where the U.S. Government detonated an atomic bomb underground to see if it would work for this subterranean fracking experiment. They couldn't be forthcoming with the public about this due to the anger and paranoia it would cause and due to national security and keeping these efforts secret from other nations.


But they had to keep tabs on the environment and document any negative impacts to the soil, air, fauna, and animal life in the region. One of the things they would do is put silencers on unmarked black helicopters and fit them with weird lights to make them look like UFOs, then take samples from ranchers without their knowledge, resulting in cattle mutilations.


I will not delve into the Ancient Alien nonsense or the tales about UFOs in the Bible. None of these have a basis in fact when you look into the customs, beliefs, symbology, and practices of these ancient civilizations.


As I have said before, you can't look back at ancient civilizations and take their culture and mythology out of context and liken it to science fiction of the 21st century.


Oh, and Richard Doty was responsible for the Majestic 12 Documents too.

Friday, May 3, 2024

The Battle of Dong Den: Unraveling the Vietnam Rock Ape Bigfoot Myth

The Battle of Dong Den: Unraveling the Rock Ape Myth


Cryptid tales, common in the realms of cryptozoology, often suffer from grotesque embellishments as they pass through oral traditions. Humans, in their narrative transmission, tend to augment stories, turning mundane occurrences into sensationalized legends. This tendency highlights the importance of approaching reports of cryptids and unknown animals with skepticism, relying instead on logic, first-hand accounts, and scientific methodologies to uncover the truth behind the myths.

During the Vietnam War, multiple accounts surfaced of soldiers encountering creatures known as "Rock Apes." These beings were purportedly 5 to 6 feet tall, possessed large fangs, and were black and white in color. Described as fearless and aggressive, these creatures allegedly attacked troops, contributing to their legend.

The origins of the "Rock Ape" moniker can be traced to a specific event known as "The Battle of Dong Den." Taking place in early 1966 in Quang Nam Province, Vietnam, this battle unfolded at Hill 868, a strategic outpost for the U.S. Marine Corps. During this engagement, Marines reported unusual movements in the surrounding foliage, initially suspected to be enemy soldiers. However, subsequent observations revealed the presence of apes, leading to a surreal encounter where Marines found themselves in a one-sided conflict with these creatures.

At Hill 868, early 1966, in Quang Nam Province, Vietnam, a part of I Corps, the U.S. Marine stomping grounds during the Vietnam War. Seabees had blown the top off Dong Den Mountain to create a Divisional Outpost/Landing Zone and Radio Relay site for the Third Marines. The site was a great vantage point for the Marines, overlooking Elephant Valley to the North and Red Beach and the Da Nang Air Base to the east and southeast. It was also the site of the controversial ‘Battle of Dong Den.’ The following has been reported as the radio conversation between the Marines on the mountain and their Captain.




The Marines on the hill called the Captain to report there was movement in the foliage, a possible large formation of enemy soldiers, the Viet Cong.

The Captain ordered the Marines to “stay in place,” the fire-base artillery would back them up if necessary.


The radio crackled back, “Never mind. We have a large number of apes all around us.”

The Captain reiterated to “stay in place” and not to reveal their position by discharging their weapons.

Hill 868: “These apes are getting close.”

The Captain: “How close?”

Hill 868: “If he gets the handset he can tell you himself.”

The Captain: “Well, throw rocks at them to chase them away.”

A pause, then Hill 868 called back: “Damn! They’re throwing rocks back at us and they throw harder than we do! Request permission to fire!”

There was a loud thump, possibly a sizable rock impacting the radioman, followed by a scream mixed with curses, growls and multiple descriptive adjectives in the background.

The Captain: “No shooting! Do not give away your position!”

Hill 868: “We’re fixing bayonets…”

The radio cracked. Screams of pain were heard as was anger from the Marines and apes alike.

Hill 868: “We’re goin’ hand-to-hand!”

Before the Captain could respond, the hill exploded into a one-sided firefight, all the sounds coming from American weapons. Unable to get a response, the Captain dispatched a squad of Marines to reconnoiter the area and the situation. The squad found Marines, and what the Vietnamese call “Batutut” meaning “jungle people” or “Nguoi Rung” meaning “people of the forest” or what American soldiers called “Rock Apes” strewn across Hill 868. They called the Captain to report several dead Rock Apes, a bunch of angry Marines, the rest unconscious. Four seriously wounded Marines were transported for medical care via med-evacs. 





Rock Apes: Tales of Encounter and Conflict




The most prominent accounts of Rock Apes were published in Kregg P.J. Jorgenson’s book Very Crazy, G.I. - Strange but True Stories of the Vietnam War. One such story from this book tells the account of a unit of six men from the 101st Airborne Division.

This particular unit was taking a rest when the trees about 15 yards uphill from them suddenly began to shake violently. Naturally, given their environment, the soldiers assumed the shaking was caused by the enemy, and that they needed to immediately prepare to be under attack. However, as the soldiers watched the trees, they saw “that an oblong head with a face covered in reddish hair, possessing a huge mouth, and dark, deep-set eyes had emerged from the brush,”

When this bizarre creature fully emerged, the soldiers were able to get a better look, and they saw that it was about 5 feet tall and very muscular, and covered in matted reddish hair. The creature stood on two legs and examined the soldiers just as they examined it. As the soldiers argued over whether or not the creature might be an orangutan, it retreated back into the jungle.


In 1968, Mike Company of the 3rd Battalion of the 5th Marines, were in the jungle in the area of Monkey Mountain, just outside of Da Nang. Marines reported that when they were in the mountains, apes would get above them and throw rocks at them, ambushing the ambush teams.


In 1969, Delta Company, First of the 502nd infantry, 101st Airborne Division, was on Nui Mo Tau Ridge, about ten miles south of Hue City. They were eating lunch when about eight apes  came walking up a trail and surprised them. They looked very much like NVA soldiers in khaki uniforms as they came around a bend in the trail about 10 meters from the unsuspecting GI's.
 
Imagine the bizarre scene of about 8 GI's firing madly at seven or eight apes. The alpha male Rock Ape was very dark in color; almost black while the rest were light brown. He was in the trees and repeatedly rushed the GIs and then retreated (rushing and retreating is a characteristic of the primate we will discuss in a moment). He did this several times, apparently covering the retreat of the troop.
 
The shooting all stopped at the same instant, and we just stood there in shock for a while.
Apparently the fire continued after they realized what had arrived, not to harm the animals but to scare them away.

The Marines took their position, and Steve Canyon and a buddy set up a simulated ambush position. Then they noticed they were not alone. Gazing at them was a Rock Ape, grave and not at all afraid. The Ape began to cry a strange guttural sound like the bark of a dog.
 
The noise would give away their location and ruin the experiment. Steve Canyon's buddy picked up a rock, "No! Don't do it! They throw back!" His buddy ignored him and threw it anyway.
 
The rock glanced off the Ape, who promptly found one of his own, and threw it back with a curious motion of the wrist on the follow-through. Steve Canyon said it was funny. The Rock Apes throw like girls, only with velocity.
 
"They'd make great fast-pitch softball players," said the VP in the back. He has a daughter who plays the sport, and I could see he was thinking about applications for the resource.
 
"Yeah, so all of a sudden there isn't one Ape, there is about twenty of them, all barking and throwing stones at us."
 
"Why didn't you shoot them?" I asked. Steve looked out the windshield. "I dunno. Didn't seem right. But those Apes started to come at us and we ran as fast as we could and we didn't stop until we were out of the jungle." 

It is said that withdrawal of American forces over the next two years did not end the matter. The Rock Apes continued to hold their ground.



 
In 1974, the apes caused so much trouble for the North Vietnamese that a major expedition to Tay Nguyen, in the area they had liberated in Kon Tum Province. There are no reports of success or victory.
 
It has been said, "You don't want to get into it with the Rock Apes. They can throw heat."


They used to conduct periodic attacks on troops in Laos and Cambodia. And that was the beginning of the tale of the Rock Apes, the Strange Jungle People. 'Rock Ape ' is the common name of a tail-less monkey known as the Barbary Macaques, found wild in Morocco and Algeria. It is not the same creature known to have pelted and surprised troops in Southeast Asia.
 
Steve Canyon said they were light brown to reddish brown in color, and about half the height of an American. They sat on their haunches and were active at night, though some reports indicate they trooped in the day as well, and were sometimes mistaken for patrols of North Vietnamese Regulars. They were normally light red in color, though "In the dark," said Steve Canyon, "they were gray."
 
There was evidence of them everywhere. Sometimes excrement would be found on a bunker roof in the morning, mysterious commentary in the night.


However, as investigations deepened and scientific scrutiny intensified, the truth behind the Rock Ape myth began to unravel. Photographs purported to show Rock Apes were later identified (by Jason Brazeal: a Deep Learning Engineer and Cultural Anthropology student) as the Red-Shanked Douc Langur (Pygathrix nemaeus), a known primate species native to the region.


These images are as good as a first hand account. In them we have the very soldiers who referred to these creatures as “Rock Apes” along with the creatures themselves for identification. It’s a shame that no “cryptozoologist” actually used the scientific process for the purpose of identifying what these creatures actually are. Instead “Cryptozoologists” are more interested in perpetuating the legend, the tales, the fantastic and otherworldly accounts of something in order to sensationalize it. That’s why I became disillusioned with it. I found out that they don’t really want answers. They don’t really want to find out what the actual explanation is for their cryptids, in fact they hate it when you tell them the truth. Do that and the Bigfoot believers will start hurling all sorts of things at you.

I discovered this when I spoke to Jeff Meldrum, Bill Munns and Loren Coleman in regards to having debunked the Patterson - Gimlin film. Which should be a very happy thing. It should be exciting and happy to have the answers, right? But what if the answers don’t align with what these people have been preaching for all these years? What if those answers make their books stop selling or their Docs stop paying.. Nope, they don’t actually want the truth.

I, on the other hand find the truth behind the legend to be even more interesting than the embellished legends themselves. The truth behind it is fascinating to see how something unusual but mundane could produce legends of people smuggling “Rock Apes” out of Vietnam and freezing them in a block of ice and taking them around as an exhibit “The Minnesota Iceman” (I’ll write an article about that soon), or how giant Bigfoot creatures attacked troops. How there’s huge man-like footprints in the jungle and how Vietnam also has huge 9 foot tall Bigfoot creatures.

Funny, how a 3 foot tall Langur who is protecting it’s habitat and pissed off because it’s territory was being invaded attacked and threw rocks at troops and then that morphed into tales about Hominids frozen in blocks of ice and 9 foot tall Sasquatch encounters. What was 3 became 9 and what was a monkey but jokingly referred too as an ape by troops became Sasquatch. Hilarious and fascinating at the same time. 

The only sad part for me is seeing these beautiful, endangered animals killed or harmed because of human ignorance and human territorial disputes. The humans were acting the same as the apes. The apes were just defending their territory, their jungle from invaders and the troops who didn’t belong there. Sad, really. But mediocrity and stupidity are common. That’s why they’re cheap.










The Battle of Dong Den, once a cornerstone in the Rock Ape legend, now serves as a cautionary tale of how perceptions can be distorted by the fog of war. Through critical analysis and scientific inquiry, we can demystify cryptid narratives and uncover the natural explanations that lie beneath the surface.

We have accounts with the majority of them representing embellished accounts of Red-Shanked Douc Langur (Pygathrix nemaeus), along with images of these same creatures being referred too as “Rock Apes” by the very soldiers who they faced off against and who they gave so much trouble too and there is the fact that Red-Shanked Douc Langur (Pygathrix nemaeus) still lives on that mountain, in that region to this very day. They’re unfortunately an endangered species but they completely align with the truth behind the Bigfoot Sasquatch Vietnam Rock Ape Legends and the truth behind the legends while seemingly underwhelming is still a very interesting one. Isn’t it fascinating how humans can create such outlandish theories and embellish their legends to such heights? I think so.  




And I conclude with the intention that this one goes out to all the Bigfoot believers, Sasquatch chasers and budding cryptozoologists. 
There’s a lesson to be learned in all of this and it is that the source of the legends and rumors does probably have some truth in it. I concur that when people say there’s too many eyewitnesses and blah, blah but there’s a reason why eyewitness testimony only goes so far in court and there’s a truth to these stories. There is indeed a catalyst in most counts but that catalyst is very unlikely to be the end point of the embellished myth. So when you’re looking for that 9 foot tall Bigfoot, you might need to be looking for that 3 foot tall Langur instead. 

Wednesday, May 1, 2024

The Debunking of The Patterson - Gimlin Bigfoot film is a Pick Your Poison.



This is the older version. If you visit the link above it has all of the updated information. 



In dissecting and debunking the Patterson-Gimlin film, it essentially comes down to choosing your poison. It's a hoax, contrary to assertions by figures like Meldrum and Munns, who claim expertise but come up short in every aspect; it's really a matter of selecting which hoax exposure resonates with your perspective:

Ill-fitting footwear that flops

A Chamber’s mask stretched over a football helmet with the head portion removed from the suit to create bulk

The comical notion of "Gimlin-In-A-Bush" (which, amusingly, evokes a Scooby-Doo scenario)

Frame F325 featuring fake footwear

Frame F61 showing two left feet

Misplaced fake breasts, positioned three inches lower than anatomically accurate

Utilization of arm extensions and shoulder pads

Walking patterns mirroring human gait, particularly that of Bob H.

Use of a Ringo Starr-esque hairpiece akin to what Chambers employed at the time, appearing remarkably similar to Dr. Zeus when darker, more Ringo-esque, and affixed to a football helmet

Inclusion of a prosthetic eye, glaringly authentic due to being molded from Bob H.'s actual prosthetic eye onto the mask for a realistic gleam

Still hands and immobile fingers, lacking natural movement due to arm extensions being employed

Roger's history as a con artist and the detailed storyboard and screenplay evident in Roger's book a year prior

The Roe account, indicating plagiarism with a play-by-play description

Bob Hiaronomous' sterling local reputation, untainted by accusations of dishonesty from the Yakima community during his entire lifetime of residence there. With the only implications of dishonesty being hurled from Bigfoot enthusiasts in regards to the PG film hoax.

The fact that Bob H. was confronted by Gimlin about wearing the suit and promised 1,000.00 for wearing it and it was never delivered. Bob H. wasn’t one of the so called “masterminds” behind the hoax but instead was literally just a neighbor who was asked to wear the costume and promised 1,000 to do so. Which in 1967 was a substantial sum.

Philip Morris' account detailing Roger's rental of a suit from Chambers, albeit desiring a customizable suit (Chambers parted out suits and reused them for various productions and was known to rent out the suits. Suit alterations like those done in the PG film would not have been allowed so it makes sense that another suit was purchased for customization as all of that aligns with the backstory)

Roger's visit to Desilu Studios

The backstory alone unveils a tapestry of fabrications, rendering the film's authenticity highly dubious even before viewing the footage. This sentiment is amplified when examining the film's numerous flaws, particularly considering the alleged expertise of individuals like Munns in FX and film, which is indeed an embarrassment that such a so called “expert” would fail to recognize fundamental FX techniques and would hold up a false narrative about the technological capabilities of FX artists at the time. Such individuals should feel ashamed for fostering false hope among Bigfoot believers.

Meldrum's interpretation of a sliding suit piece (footwear too large for Bob H. which is clearly seen just before Bob reaches the log and just as the image stabilizes) as a midtarsal joint is equally laughable. One might question whether these experts are genuinely misguided or deliberately deceiving their audience, perhaps for personal gain through book sales or documentary appearances that exploit believers' hopes.

This situation is not only repulsive but also pitiable. However, returning to the focal point, these discrepancies represent merely the tip of the iceberg. Numerous other inconsistencies further corroborate the film's status as a hoax, leaving no room for doubt.

As I mentioned earlier, exposing such truths isn't about malice; rather, it's rooted in a fascination with uncovering realities obscured by hoaxes and misidentifications. Despite my interests in gothic rock, punk, history, and technology, I find no allure in advocating for the existence of phenomena like Bigfoot. The absence of credible evidence, despite modern technology and extensive scrutiny, solidifies my stance. Bigfoot is a fantastical notion that contradicts natural history and lacks any substantial basis.

My area of interest lies in Cultural Anthropology, delving into the intricate study of diverse human tribes, their societies, and the nuanced interpretations shaped by their customs. This concept embodies what I term a "Pop-Culture-Society," a modern realm where myths often emerge from the fabric of movies and popular culture. Take, for instance, the iconic KING KONG (1933), which sparked the initial modern sighting of the Loch Ness Monster. While some may cite St. Columba's accounts, it's crucial to note the contextual embellishments, such as his reputed feats of turning water into wine and dispelling demons from milk pails. These narratives were strategic tools aimed at Christianizing the populace of that era for the Catholic Church's benefit.

The narrative surrounding Nessie's presence in ancient folklore becomes further complex when considering the millennia-long occupation of Urquhart Castle, dating back to the 13th century. Astonishingly, throughout this extensive history, there exists not a single recorded sighting or report of the Loch Ness Monster. This absence poses a significant challenge for Nessie enthusiasts.

In addition to this we can look at the Chupacabra and how the first sightings directly coincide with the release of the film SPECIES (1995).

From a Cultural Anthropological standpoint, these phenomena captivate me. The allure of these stories, steeped in mythical and ghostly motifs, intertwines with the intriguing truths lying beneath the surface. It's intriguing to observe how readily people embrace outlandish theories, such as Bigfoot being an extraterrestrial entity or existing in an inter-dimensional realm. For instance, the eccentric M.K. Davis propagates a ludicrous notion of additional footage from the Patterson-Gimlin film, which he altered the color palette of this footage to make the reds more pronounced in order to depict blood and a fabricated massacre orchestrated by a malevolent lumber company against Bigfoot and its kin. The absurdity of the PG Film reaches new heights with Davis's Bigfoot Massacre narrative.

M.K. Davis fervently subscribes to this fantastical Bigfoot narrative. However, the massacre is a fabrication rooted in the undeniable fact that the Bigfoot itself is a fabrication, as evidenced by the Patterson-Gimlin film featuring Bob H. donning shoulder pads, dynel fabric, horsehide, ill-fitting fake breasts, and oversized footwear. It's a comedic irony that people gravitate towards such extremes, yet balk at the simplest, most logical explanation—a person in a costume. This cognitive dissonance often leads to name-calling and a staunch defense of their perceived reality, despite the inherent flaws in eyewitness testimony, which holds limited weight in legal proceedings.

This phenomenon, both absurd and captivating, reflects a quasi-religious devotion that some individuals bestow upon these myths, elevating them to the status of deity. It's a complex interplay of belief, fantasy, and the human psyche—an aspect of Cultural Anthropology that continues to intrigue and challenge conventional understanding.

The concept of a singular missing link is a fallacy; evolution is a complex tapestry of interconnected elements, not reliant on a solitary creature like Bigfoot to complete the narrative. Regarding the Patterson-Gimlin film specifically, I must assert that deception has been at play. Regardless of one's perception of Bob Gimlin's honesty, the fact remains that he continues to profit from perpetuating a falsehood, repeatedly deceiving the public.


At the end of the day there are 3 kinds of people.

  1. You’ll be grateful for this knowledge and look back at how silly it was that you could have ever considered it to be real. You’ll give a round of proverbial applause to Roger for pulling one over on you and you’ll find the truth to it all very interesting. Even more interesting than the hoax.
  2. You’ll be in denial about it and you’ll make up excuses as to why that could never be true. Because there’s no way that the guy in the suit could be a guy in a suit. I mean that’s preposterous to think that this guy in a suit is anything but a legendary creature that has never been proven to exist and doesn’t fit in with Natural History. Right? I mean how could anyone mistake this amazing creature with Dynel fur to be anything but a missing link!
  3. You will wonder why this has even been brought up because didn’t they already admit that it was a hoax? Oh wait! You mean Bigfoot believers still latch on to this? They still think it’s real? This is still their best evidence of Bigfoot and it’s a hoax? HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA! As Bugs Bunny would say “Whatta Maroon!” 

All of the scenarios I listed from the manufactured footwear and prosthetic eye to everything in between is true and that’s why it’s literally a pick-your-poison.

As I have stated before, the fact that certain elements within the sequence might appear to look more realistic or that they couldn’t be done are automatically trumped by the introduction of one single synthetic (or faked) element.

If the subject in the film was indeed real and was a genuine, living breathing creature then there could be absolutely no fakery involved. So it stands to reason that by exposing one thing within the film which is fake, no matter how large or microscopic that thing may be, it automatically exposes the entire sequence to be fraudulent because the only way that the fraudulent element can exist is if the entire sequence and everything in it is fraudulent.

So we don’t need the entire film to align with our conceptions once that single and exposing element has been revealed. All we need from the point of exposure of this fraudulent item is to then look at it in terms of how they pulled it off because we know that it is indeed a fraud and contrary to what certain individuals might say…if we know the subject is wearing manufactured footwear that doesn’t fit properly, or we know that there is eyeshine in the most famous still of the sequence and it’s obviously due to a prosthetic eye, or if we know that the subject has to have fake breasts on because they don’t line up where they’re supposed too, or whichever of the myriad of elements both within the film and without that all point to fraud, then once we have that one thing which we have noticed to be a fraud, there is no more point in arguing whether or not this could have been done, or that could have been done.

It obviously was done and the reason we know that is because we have already revealed it to be a fraud and since it’s an all or nothing sort of thing, there is no other explanation for it being anything but a fraud once fraud has been established on even the smallest of levels.

So pick your own poison, there are plenty to choose from which are both within the film sequence itself and outside of it. It doesn't matter which one you pick because they all point to fraud. They all point to the lie that you have been told by people trying to capitalize on your sense of wonder and curiosity and hope and they do it for their own popularity and their own financial gain, whether it be getting paid to appear in Docs or getting suckers like you to buy into their BS lie and spend money on their books and autographed pictures and stuff. 

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